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Ukrainian man detonates a grenade after being conscripted to avoid going to war.Ukraine/Russia (v.redd.it)

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[–]GumballgtrPurveyor of suppressed news 🧙‍♂️[S] [score hidden] stickied comment (1 child)

https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2025/11/21/8008392

[–]-HalfNakedBrunch- [score hidden]  (13 children)

Great example of why forced conscription regardless of the circumstances or nation is moronic. If you treat a person as expendable fodder violating their bodily autonomy what incentive do they have not to do this? Countless American CO’s were killed in Vietnam by fragging

[–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (12 children)

least he died on his own terms, I was reading the other day that conscripts live on average three days on the front before they get killed

[–]BassoeG [score hidden]  (1 child)

I was reading the other day that conscripts live on average three days on the front before they get killed

Four hours. On an ironic note, these are actually worse odds than those envisioned by GW’s infamous grimdark-for-the-point-of-grimdark dystopian worldbuilding when fighting actual orcs.

[–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (0 children)

crazy, just terrifying

[–]Gamer_Redpill_Nasser [score hidden]  (2 children)

Read the Wikipedia controversy section for the Ukrainian territorial recruitment centres. 

They've  regularly beaten conscripts to death on before they ever reach the front. 

[–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (0 children)

they're locked in like animals, watched a vid where a lad escaped and travelled across the mountains to (Moldova?)

[–]saymazBased [score hidden]  (0 children)

Didn't a brit got yeeted like this?

[–]start3ch [score hidden]  (6 children)

Looks like he killed someone else in the process too.

[–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (5 children)

A TCC kidnapper who has likely sent many more unwilling men to their deaths, just food for thought

[–]Poltergeist97 [score hidden]  (4 children)

I find it crazy if those TCC guys get to never see actual combat for what they do. Wouldn't it be fair that for making so many poor men go through hell, that they should face the same?

[–]shane_4_us [score hidden]  (1 child)

History is replete with kapos who escape the fates they facilitate for their brethren.

[–]iheartkju [score hidden]  (0 children)

aka every single person who participated in the ha'avara agreement

[–]juflyingwild [score hidden]  (0 children)

They're like the brown shirts of the 1930s.

Or ICE.

[–]Davidat0rBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (0 children)

You’re describing every president of a country at war. And yeah, they should too 

[–]CenturyLinkIsCheeksBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (16 children)

if you kidnap me off the streets to go die in a meat grinder war against Canada, might as well send along a special delivery to some of those responsible. If you are going to die, do it on your terms.

[–]Davidat0rBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (6 children)

Hey! I was also banned from worldnews for defending Palestine and talking shit about Israel haha How do I get that badge of honor?

[–]CenturyLinkIsCheeksBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Good man.

one of the mods handed it out, I forget which one, would be worth shooting them a mod mail

[–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍[M] [score hidden]  (1 child)

Your wish is my command

[–]Alissinarr [score hidden]  (0 children)

Can I get one that shows "Banned from /r/news" ?

[–]MammarishkaBased [score hidden]  (1 child)

My old account was banned from all of reddit because I called IDF soldiers trash.

[–]liberaeli420 [score hidden]  (0 children)

But it's actually the RUSSIANS who have taken over Reddit with their bot armies

[–]The-Lord_ofHate [score hidden]  (0 children)

Apparently Ghilaine Maxwell was one of the mods at some point.

[–]hhh333 [score hidden]  (7 children)

That one guy who knew what a grenade pin sounds like..

[–]saymazBased [score hidden]  (4 children)

I mean they are literally in the middle of a war.

[–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (3 children)

not the TCC lol, they will never go

[–]saymazBased [score hidden]  (2 children)

So they are bounty hunters?

[–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (1 child)

they kidnap men off the street to send them to the front

[–]saymazBased [score hidden]  (0 children)

Slavecatchers.

[–]SpezJailbaitMod [score hidden]  (0 children)

The dog got out too

[–]TheCommonKoala [score hidden]  (0 children)

I count 3 who immediately reacted to the sound as well as the guy next to him, reacting a bit too late. I assume the sound was fairly loud and recognizable.

[–]Jackaroni97 [score hidden]  (2 children)

I mean wtf do you expect. If your forcing someone to kill other people, sometimes they would rather take themselves out before doing it.

On a side note, ive never seen people explode in half from a grenade so thats fucking wild.

[–]Cuatroveintte [score hidden]  (1 child)

I mean not only being forced to kill others but also dying yourself in dire situations, I mean one thing is dying and another thing is falling prisoner of war to an enemy that may torture you before killing you. we've all seen that castrated Ukrainian video.

On a side note, ive never seen people explode in half from a grenade so thats fucking wild.

not exactly a grenade but same thing happened accidentally to a criminal in my country last year

[–]Matr0ska [score hidden]  (0 children)

we've all seen that castrated Ukrainian video.

Uhhh, that's a thing? Did Russia capture a soldier and cut off his balls on camera or something!?

[–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (0 children)

glad the dog is ok, not bothered what happens to the TCC, they've killed countless men with their kidnappings. If they had an ounce of honour at this point, they'd either quit their jobs or sign up themselves

if people don't want to go to war then don't make them because this is the fucking result. This is not even the first time that somebody has blown themselves up at a TCC centre I think it's like the 4th, an old woman blew herself after her son was conscripted and killed within a couple of days

[–]MonsterkillWow [score hidden]  (1 child)

Jesus...poor guy

[–]reddog323 [score hidden]  (0 children)

It’s a horrible choice to have to make, but at least he went out on his own terms.

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    [–]Malabogao [score hidden]  (4 children)

    So criticizing something about Ukraine makes you pro-Russia? XDD

    [–]saymazBased [score hidden]  (2 children)

    I have been called a Hamas operative multiple times when criticizing Israel was not acceptable. Then the dumbasses at the IDF started uploading their own warcrimes with huge smiles on their faces.

    [–]Malabogao [score hidden]  (1 child)

    Everything falls apart under its own weight, especially when they themselves publish their war crimes. It's also interesting to see how, in a pre-genocide world, criticizing Israel was seen as taboo. I'm glad that's over.

    [–]cinflowers [score hidden]  (4 children)

    agreed, but this is a war between two imperialist powers using ukraine as a sockpuppet. i'll acknowledge that ukraine has to defend its land from a foreign invader, while also understanding that their 'ally' is in no way interested in helping ukraine beyond what it can milk out of a longer and bloodier conflict; fuelled by young men fed nonsense about glory. It's a lot like WW1, in that one of the major factors in ending the war was when one of the fronts turned inwards, against its own rulers; and withdrew via treaty.

    [–]servel20 [score hidden]  (3 children)

    Ukrainians wanted to become part of the European economic system, this is what triggered it all. Apparently they cant have self-determination when it comes to Russian interest.

    And i do agree, that the US by all accounts is spoon feeding all the aid and not committing to helping Ukraine stop this war, content with bleeding Russia.

    [–]cinflowers [score hidden]  (0 children)

    The US switching tactic - from supporting the slow bleed of russia through ukraine to supporting ukraine wholeheartedly - would require a fundamental change in the way the US does things. The US war machine is primarily interested in potential shareholder interests regarding ukrainian rare earth metals and food production; which requires them to squeeze insane deals from ukraine by means of holding aid over their heads. It's also important to note that being the enforcer of this doesn't make the US the only beneficiary; various other imperial powers have their own means like french debt diplomacy and the like. Russia is kind of disinvited from this process; because its finance system, for example, has very little to offer the global empire; and so it resorts to much more brutal and low means. What imperialist countries do, however, is very similar at its core.

    [–]PierreFeuilleSage [score hidden]  (1 child)

    The US poured tens of millions in 'NGOs' to push Euromaidan and divide Ukraine.

    [–]servel20 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    And Russia didn't? Please, the only source of this claim is the ambassador from the US to then Ukraine having a conversation with a secretary of stage staffer that was leaked where he said the movement was going according to their interests and they discussed their opinions on who would be best to head the Ukranians government.

    This is wildly different than literal Russian assets "titushky" shooting people and firebombing buildings to push for an excuse to send in their military.

    [–]clandestineVexation [score hidden]  (4 children)

    Nothing to be done because it’s the mods’ view

    [–]servel20 [score hidden]  (3 children)

    I agree, seems like any anti-Ukranian claim is going completely unvetted. But every time i make a claim defending Russia i am suspended unless i can prove my exact words and amend my original comment.

    [–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍[M] [score hidden]  (2 children)

    This is not true. I post shit about Russia being shitters all the time:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/suppressed_news/comments/1p1mern/neonazi_cultist_battalion_rusich_calls_for_its/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/suppressed_news/comments/1p33hi6/former_farright_party_leader_in_the_uk_is_jailed

    [–]servel20 [score hidden]  (1 child)

    Thank you for doing your effort in keeping the sub more fairly balanced.

    Having said that, why was my post showing Russia killing POW's deleted? Why was i forced to "prove" that Russia is systematically killing Ukranian POW's compared to Ukraine not doing so?

    [–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    there are a couple of reasons. Firstly because you crossposed it from the Ukraine subreddit which is not suppressed by any means it's actually one of the largest communities on the platform and not exactly known for being unbiased.

    and also I know you don't want to hear this but, for every video of Russians killing Ukrainian Pows I have a video of Ukrainians doing the same. I collect stuff like this because I like to keep the conversation balanced.

    most importantly though, because videos of extreme violence like that will get us strikes from the website admins. We've been warned before.

    And yes I do condemn Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

    [–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍[M] [score hidden]  (2 children)

     i got one of my posts here removed for showing Russian soldiers executing POW's. Because apparently that's not "suppressed news"

    You were cross posting from the Ukraine sub, one of the largest subreddits on the platform and also very biased (obviously) and not by any means suppressed.

    Also it's no secret that Russia kills POWs, heck even Ukrainians do: https://www.reddit.com/r/war/comments/1p24wi3/blue_on_pow

    It's just nothing new. Too much grievance built up.

    And on top of that, I posted about the topic myself days before: https://www.reddit.com/r/suppressed_news/comments/1p1mern/neonazi_cultist_battalion_rusich_calls_for_its/

    Now...try post OPs video on the Ukraine subreddit, or anywhere on Reddit and you'll learn what suppressed means.

    [–]servel20 [score hidden]  (1 child)

    I'm confused, so because i cross posted. Was my post not suppressed here? Who is the arbiter on what suppressed news are?

    [–]RandomGenName1234Banned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    It was suppressed HERE but far from suppressed everywhere else, more like amplified everywhere else.

    [–]mrastickman [score hidden]  (7 children)

    What should the Ukranian government do? Rollover and let Russia do whatever they want?

    No, they should reach a negotiated settlement.

    What happens when the next states are in the Baltics. Should NATO just give up the baltics?

    If they are invaded by a nuclear armed superpower, then yes, probably. What's the alternative? Avoiding that should be the goal of diplomats right now.

    [–]servel20 [score hidden]  (5 children)

    Do you understand that the only settlement Russia wants is for Ukraine to be a proxy state and to dismantle their military.

    So you are saying, just to be sure that appeasement is the best strategy to slow down or stop a world power with imperialist ambition? Gotcha. How did that work out with Hitler in WW2.

    [–]mrastickman [score hidden]  (4 children)

    Do you understand that the only settlement Russia wants is for Ukraine to be a proxy state and to dismantle their military.

    That's what they want, yes, but they've already agreed to settle for less in provisional agreements.

    So you are saying, just to be sure that appeasement is the best strategy to slow down or stop a world power with imperialist ambition? Gotcha. How did that work out with Hitler in WW2.

    How would WW2 have worked out if the Nazis had thousands of nuclear war-heads? Geopolitics has actually changed in the last 80 years.

    [–]servel20 [score hidden]  (3 children)

    They have not agreed to settle for anything else. In every single agreement they push, they want complete control of the entire East of the country and for the Ukrainian government to disband and run new elections (which they would manipulate like in every other slavic country), disband their military, and they don't want the west to give Ukraine any security guarantees.

    Even in the "peace plan" that was leaked, pretty much every russian demand was met while having Ukraine hold the bag. Even though Ukraine gave up their Nuclear stockpile in exchange of security guarantees from the west and russia.

    Nuclear weapons use in the modern world are almost a non-factor. Because the moment Russia uses its nuclear weapons it would also cease to exist as a country. So no, they're not going to use their nuclear weapons unless they are invaded. Same as the US, same as every nuclear country except maybe Israel.

    [–]mrastickman [score hidden]  (2 children)

    and for the Ukrainian government to disband and run new elections

    Was the Ukrainian government not already planning on that when the war ended? I would hope so. Also that's not true, the current proposal calls for a limited but still significant Ukrainian military, between 800 and 600 thousand. And as of right now, Article 5-style protection is included.

    Even in the "peace plan" that was leaked, pretty much every russian demand was met while having Ukraine hold the bag.

    Yes, Russia is a much more powerful country. And that's to say nothing of the debt Ukraine is going to have to pay off.

    Even though Ukraine gave up their Nuclear stockpile in exchange of security guarantees from the west and russia.

    If they didn't give up the nuclear weapons they would have been sanctioned by the entire world, it wasn't a choice.

    Nuclear weapons use in the modern world are almost a non-factor. Because the moment Russia uses its nuclear weapons it would also cease to exist as a country.

    Yes, it's called mutually assured destruction.

    So no, they're not going to use their nuclear weapons unless they are invaded.

    How would Ukraine achieve any victory without Russia being invaded?

    [–]servel20 [score hidden]  (1 child)

    Yes, the Ukranian government was planning as far as i know to hold elections after the war. No, the original leaked plan wanted Ukraine to have a very limited amount of military, not disclosing actual numbers, and no security guarantees.

    Now the White House is walking back on those reports, first claiming the NATO style article five and now literally saying its russian propaganda.

    So what you are advocating for is to let bigger countries push their imperialist weight around free of consequence? I thought that's what most of us here were absolutely and vehemently against.

    Sure they would have been sanctioned, but they would still be sitting on the third largest arsenal of nuclear weapons in the world. And as such, no invasions would have all but been guaranteed. How is this not teaching the rest of the world, specifically smaller countries that they need nuclear weapons to prevent world powers from conquering them.

    By stopping them in Ukraine and maybe pushing them back. It would force Russia to actually put forth an actual peace plan where both sides meet down the middle.

    [–]mrastickman [score hidden]  (0 children)

    No, the original leaked plan wanted Ukraine to have a very limited amount of military, not disclosing actual numbers, and no security guarantees.

    Yes, and that might end up being the deal, but that's not what's being reported right now.

    So what you are advocating for is to let bigger countries push their imperialist weight around free of consequence? I thought that's what most of us here were absolutely and vehemently against.

    Most people are against it, and should be. But that's also the reality of the world and has been for centuries.

    Sure they would have been sanctioned, but they would still be sitting on the third largest arsenal of nuclear weapons in the world.

    On paper, in reality they didn't have the infrastructure to maintain it, and wouldn't have been able to get it, or even rebuild itself at all as an independent state without outside help and trade.

    By stopping them in Ukraine and maybe pushing them back. It would force Russia to actually put forth an actual peace plan where both sides meet down the middle.

    Yes, that's what was done. Now the peace is being negotiated. It might have been a better deal if it was right after the failure of the original offensive, but we'll never know. Russia's position has only become stronger with time, against a country with less men and less bullets.

    [–]The999Mind [score hidden]  (4 children)

    Considering there was a peace deal on the table from the beginning, they should have gone with that instead of fighting. 

    Idk why y'all bring up Russia invading NATO countries like thats something Putin really wants to do. A head to head of NATO vs Russia is actually a death wish for Russia compared to the kind of proxy dance that's going on now. 

    I'm not shilling for Russia, but realistically what else could happen in this scenario? People are being forcefully conscripted, and are willing to grenade themselves to get out of it. The average age of a Ukrainian fighter is like 50. They're losing the war of attrition.

    [–]servel20 [score hidden]  (3 children)

    What was the peace deal? Let me tell you what it was. Give up the east and have new elections. Then let us regroup so we can also conquer the west.

    Russia is actively putting plans together to run the same type of psy-ops in the baltic states as they did in Ukraine. They are pushing the "ethnic russians" in baltic states are being discriminated against. It would not be unlikely for them to do some push into the baltics strategy and then try to nuclear sable rattle to discourage NATO from defending the baltic states.

    Yes, people are being forcefully conscripted when they get a draft notice and they dodge it. Same as it happened in the US, and exactly the same as it happens in every country that runs a draft. Same as in Russia a couple of years ago a guy shot up a conscription office and killed several recruiters.

    Difference here is Ukraine is the one illegally being attacked and Russia being the imperialist aggressor.

    [–]Proper-Village-454 [score hidden]  (1 child)

    When the US had the draft, we sent people to prison for draft dodging. We didn’t kill them, or force them into brutal training camps and onto the front lines against their will.

    [–]servel20 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    I'd invite you to do some research, I found info on PVC's being sent to Vietnam against their will within 5 minutes of doing research.

    That's not even counting that the Vietnam war was an offensive war and the US was not fighting for its existence. A closer comparison is the Civil war, and you bet your ass tons of poor people were conscripted against their will and forced to the front lines.

    I'm not excusing the behavior, but you claiming some kind of moral superiority is wrong.

    [–]The999Mind [score hidden]  (0 children)

    What do we have now, though? Ukraine in an even weaker state, with far less to bargain with. Couple that with Trump nuclear sabre rattling before Baltic states are even a thought. 

    If NATO is funneling supplies to Ukraine and they're not even part of the treaty organization, than there's no world where NATO doesn't step in for full member states.

    [–]Billyjamesjeff [score hidden]  (3 children)

    It’s just the stupidity of binary thinking. ThE WeSt is BaD so Russia is good. It’s the same primary school level logic that made people think machine gunning unarmed children at a music concert was somehow justifiable. You can be completely opposed to genocide whilst holding critical views of parties who maybe fighting the same enemy.

    [–]servel20 [score hidden]  (2 children)

    Exactly, i can be completely critical of Russia shooting down an airliner in Ukraine just the same as the US doing the exact same thing in Iran. Lets be anti imperialist, not anti US.

    [–]Billyjamesjeff [score hidden]  (1 child)

    Well yes exactly. I mean Russia’s habit of shooting any kind of opposition or throwing them out windows has a lot to be desired. The US just pretends it’s democratic, their political class see the world in a similar way I think.

    [–]servel20 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    Us in the US have been stuck in an Oligarchy as well as Russia. Seems like its just more overtly open since Trump came into Politics

    [–]Calling_left_final [score hidden]  (0 children)

    The dog knew to skedaddle

    [–]Stuntz [score hidden]  (3 children)

    I hear reports from Ukranians saying that they literally have unmarked vans full of dudes who literally kidnap men off the street to get them into the Army. Like, ICE-style kidnapping. That's fucked up. There need to be incentives in place if you don't have a draft. That is not the way to win men to your cause.

    [–]GumballgtrPurveyor of suppressed news 🧙‍♂️[S] [score hidden]  (2 children)

    I’ve been saying the TCC and ice are the same

    [–]Stuntz [score hidden]  (0 children)

    Certainly seems like it

    [–]No_Individual501 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    I think ICE is a lot less deadly. Frontline life expectancy is 4 hours.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/eastern-ukraine-soldier-life-expectancy-meat-grinder-2023-2

    [–]No-Lynx-8205 [score hidden]  (4 children)

    I feel like you can still see and feel the force of yourself come apart for a split second if the shrapnel doesn't hit your brain/eyes.

    [–]STM_LION [score hidden]  (1 child)

    I imagine even if the shrapnel doesn't hit you, you're immediately concussed and knocked out

    [–]No-Lynx-8205 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    I thought about that too, but some people might not.

    [–]devsmess [score hidden]  (1 child)

    I think like if you burned your hand on a hot pan, there is that fraction of a second before your hand pulls back and then the next 3 seconds as you "slowly" realized what just happened.

    Maybe it's like that without the increasing pain/awareness of those 3 seconds

    [–]No-Lynx-8205 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    Right. Like I can't see the person registering the pain, but you know something just happened.. you're just not there long enough to fully grasp it.

    [–]TazManiac7 [score hidden]  (4 children)

    Just so I’m understanding: did this person commit suicide to avoid being deployed to the battle field? Or is he the one that ran up the stairs so he only hurt others and would rather go to jail? No judgement whatsoever as I have no concept of what it feels to be deployed to battle.

    Also since there are many crazy comments: I’m no expert on geopolitics, but I know that there was a Kiev before there was a Moscow. Ukrainians have a unique history and culture and have the right to self determination. I’m willing to accept that Russia has legitimate concerns regarding the American war machine expansion to its doorsteps, but taking over Ukrainian territories is unacceptable. Ukraine is unjustly paying for the US / UK anti Russian policies. Hearing Trump / US sell the idea that this is not their fault and that it is “Zelensky’s war to fight” is offensive and categorically false.

    [–]39thThrowaway [score hidden]  (1 child)

    There is a lot to cover, more than I want to at this time of day, but "there was a kiev before Moscow" is no different than "there was a kingdom of Israel before Palestine"; That's hundreds of years before the cut off date of relevancy.

    Ukraine and Russia existed like Scotland and England existed, and this war is as tragic as if Scottish people were sent to die fighting English people despite most Scottish people having English relatives or friends with English relatives and vice versa. There's valid concerns in your comment, but referring to medieval genetic memory is not really a good way to understand or empathize with current conflicts unless you want to stoop to the level of ultranationalists

    [–]Recreationalchem13 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    So glad you made this point

    [–]Gorilla_In_The_Mist [score hidden]  (0 children)

    The guy committed suicide, I think the guy that ran up the stairs just happened to be reaching into his pouch which is what threw you off I believe.

    [–]Space_Slav07Based [score hidden]  (0 children)

    He comitted suicide. He chose to go on his own terms.

    And I agree with you that it's the US and UK's main responsibility that this war started, but don't ignore that the Zelensky government essentially acted like a puppet for them. The Ukrainian government isn't innocent, the Ukrainian people are.

    [–]HotMinimum26 [score hidden]  (1 child)

    Yo doing I heard you like watermarks, I put watermarks on your watermarks

    [–]saymazBased [score hidden]  (1 child)

    What the fuck is going on!?

    [–]ConsiderationSea1347 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    Same thing that has been going on since the dawn of time - men are being forced to kill and die as a tool for a government. The world needs to condemn conscription, this is terrifying.

    [–]Davidat0rBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    That lucky bastard getting behind the other dude in the last second

    [–]gnoani [score hidden]  (0 children)

    Whenever a grenade in a video game seems to have a 3-foot damage radius I'll be less upset now. That close guy on the left is unbelievably lucky.

    [–]AnyBit4421 [score hidden]  (6 children)

    I wouldn’t wanna join a war where one of my allied countries will assist the enemy killing me either. America needs to stand up tall so we can put our boot up Putin’s ass already.

    [–]ConsiderationSea1347 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    America couldn’t have ended this invasion in two weeks. I am disgusted that we don’t do more yet we will bomb boats off the coast of South America without any evidence.

    [–]MarxAndSamsara [score hidden]  (0 children)

    No need to be cruel to your fellow humans just because they have different views or beliefs. When you "other" people who disagree with you, you're only adding to the same violent energy that leads us to tragic wars like this one in the first place.

    [–]Space_Slav07Based [score hidden]  (0 children)

    Mate, American imperialism is one thing that provoked Putain. Ukraine is a pawn to them and the Ukrainian people are victims of this political fuckery.

    [–]MarxAndSamsara [score hidden]  (2 children)

    America should help Ukraine surrender on somewhat reasonable terms and end the bloodshed.

    [–]Space_Slav07Based [score hidden]  (0 children)

    We in Europe should stop sending weapons and start sending aid for the civilians

    [–]No_Spring_1090 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    He’s dead. He’s a dead now.

    [–]blubberpuss1 [score hidden]  (27 children)

    This subreddit has been flooded with anti-Ukrainian propaganda all week. Unsubscribing.

    [–]TheCommonKoala [score hidden]  (3 children)

    I wouldn't say this is "anti-Ukrainian." This is just the dark reality of forced conscription.

    [–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍[M] [score hidden]  (5 children)

    good and anybody who shares that opinion should join you because people who are unable see negative news that comes out of Ukraine without calling it propaganda are not the right fit for this subreddit.

    it saves us hassle, you can go back to getting your news from r/Ukraine

    [–]MrDialecticalBased [score hidden]  (0 children)

    Beautiful.

    [–]MrDialecticalBased [score hidden]  (0 children)

    It’s just a thing that occurred. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

    [–]DogWithWatermelon [score hidden]  (5 children)

    this happens on both sides. TCC officers in Ukraine beat people up and put them in vans, the same happens in Russia.

    These types of videos are suppressed, almost all anti-ukraine propaganda is... You joined a sub where censored news resurface, then get mad when you see said news?

    [–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (4 children)

    this happens on both sides.

    No it doesn't, It's important to remain in reality:

    Ukraine has a manpower crisis, not Russia. Ukraine is forced to kidnap men off the street. There are tens of thousands of videos of this: busification.org and none from Russia.

    Russia is recruiting (not conscripting) 20 - 30,000 contract soldiers per month according to Ukrainian sources:

    https://kyivindependent.com/russia-has-recruited-280-000-contract-soldiers-in-2025-military-intelligence-says

    [–]DogWithWatermelon [score hidden]  (2 children)

    Russia has mandatory conscription for all men aged 18-30. They also use prisoners. (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c36718p52eyo) (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67175566)

    Ukraine does this too though.

    [–]GerryAdamsSonBanned from /r/worldnews badge of honour 🌍 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    Regular Russian mandatory conscription which has always existed ≠ TCC kidnapping men off the street. That's a Ukrainian thing alone which is why there are 10,000+ videos in Ukraine and none in Russia.

    Also Russians doing national service don't fight in Ukraine.

    [–]Icy-Cry340 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    The conscripts don’t go to Ukraine - by and large anyway, a handful got caught up in the initial invasion, and some were at Kursk during the initial breakthrough.

    [–]Mol2h [score hidden]  (0 children)

    Go fight in the trenches, stop scrolling reddit.

    [–]Full-Contest1281Based [score hidden]  (0 children)

    Bye

    [–]GlockHard [score hidden]  (0 children)

    lmao, explain how this is anti-Ukrainian propaganda? do you want everything bad Ukraine to be censored? but all bad things that Russia do amplified?

    [–]39thThrowaway [score hidden]  (0 children)

    I don't see anything anti Ukrainian, I think sending people to their deaths to kill people who 5 years ago were their uncles and cousins is anti Ukrainian and I think Europe and America are anti Ukrainian for explicitly stating they want to use the war to sacrifice Ukrainians instead of their own troops for their geostrategic goals.

    I live somewhere with conscription, so this makes a lot more sense to me than it probably does to people who know they won't necessarily be used as cannon fodder. Every Ukrainian and Russian that dies for a stupid war that loses Ukraine territory each day it continues anyway is a very valuable life as valuable as my own, but one that was born in the wrong country in the wrong year when politicians in Moscow, London, Berlin and DC had other ideas.

    [–]FirmAd5337Based [score hidden]  (0 children)

    Your brain on team sports politics. This sub is obviously pro Ukrianian working class, youve just been indoctrinated into supporting the interest of the oligarchs in the USA, Europe, and Ukraine.

    [–]Space_Slav07Based [score hidden]  (0 children)

    It's pro Ukrainian because it shows the suffering of the Ukrainian people under the war, how not only Russian aggression terrorises them but also their own government kidnaps them.

    [–]Kunjunk [score hidden]  (0 children)

    You go die in a trench for some corrupt elite, oh great virtuous neckbeard.

    [–]StatusBard [score hidden]  (0 children)

    Now that there is a few roles to fill you should volunteer. 

    [–]Luciolinpos2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    good job partisan!

    [–]No-Risk1739 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    He's like: "Why wait... might as well get this over with."😐

    [–]fizz899 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    What? 😮

    [–]Shankar_0 [score hidden]  (0 children)

    If a man simply refuses to fight, then I definitely don't want him in my foxhole.

    This is way more than men in foxholes, though. A war is fought with logistics as much as missiles, and he could have driven a fucking truck!

    [–]thechamp19h [score hidden]  (1 child)

    One thing to take yourself out but that poor guys standing next to him didnt need to be involved

    [–]Maixell [score hidden]  (0 children)

    Maybe that other guy was conscripting him, I don’t in know