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Feminist want equality. So, are you ready for the real male experience..?Feminism (self.MensRights)

submitted by GrowGrow_

Welcome to the real world. THE REAL MALE EXPERIENCE:

have birthday and no one sends you a happy birthday and on top of that being alone on christmas and new years eve while NO one cares if you are even alone. NO one. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON.

Heres the deal folks: Feminist have a fever dream about the male life. They are obsessive about males they cant have but admire. They assume every MALE has a life like that. They NEVER talk about REAL MAN.

This post is not meant to make you feel bad as man, it is meant to show the true nature of us. BEING ALONE. BEING ALONE is a FUCKING STANDARD MODE as a male. It is not something unusual as social media wants to make you think of. Being ALONE as male is actually a sign of true forwardness. You know your way, i know mine.

Long story short, do you want really equality, attention seeking feminist?

Btw: if you need someone to talk, reach out to me. Cheers! Best of luck to all of you, my fellow people. Peace be upon all genders.

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[–]Aggressive-Bad-7761[🍰] 161 points162 points  (6 children)

Yeah it’s 100% true from people I’ve dated and women I have known that they basically feel robbed of being a man and believe that if they were a man they would be like a top 1% man. The “apex fallacy” its sometimes called. If they were born a man they’d be making scientific discoveries, not say, pulling a rickshaw in India.

The typical male experience in history is not being a Roman emperor or discovering electricity it’s hard labor or dying horrifically in war.

[–]PhantomBlack675 78 points79 points  (1 child)

They're looking up and complaining about the glass ceiling, but they never look down and appreciate that they're above the glass floor.

[–]Bats_YT 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Daaaamn brooo...that's such a high level quote!!

[–]everybodyluvzwaymond 61 points62 points  (0 children)

This is correct. This guy’s channel shows examples of nonsense women tell themselves. These women harbor misguided penis envy from an apex fallacy.

Girls and Women learn “I want, I deserve, I’m powerful, I’m oppressed”, but nothing about their obligations to their family, their neighbors, their country or society (beyond punching the clock). It’s very anti-social, unsustainable, and has spoiled a lot of women.

Feminism in its bid to gain power has successfully blinded women to the reality of biological dimorphism and material reality while convincing them they are victims. So now many have contempt for the reality of nature. Most have no concept that life used to be really hard for everyone until about 100 years ago and, ironically, don’t realize that Feminism is a luxury that could only exist after men build 99.8% of society and while men still do most of the dirty jobs that keep the lights on.

[–]walterwallcarpet 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Norah Vincent, a lesbian, thought that she'd be 'empowered' by living as a man. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Made_Man_(book))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norah_Vincent

Instead, as a (not very masculine) man, she was treated by women like sh*t on a shoe. She eventually committed suicide.

[–]TiddybraXton333 17 points18 points  (0 children)

That’s the same thing I say about 3 more inches. I can grab a basketball rim, but can’t dunk. If only I had those three more inches I’d be playing in thenba

[–]mwfairc 196 points197 points  (6 children)

haha, what timing for a post. Had surgery (a small one) on Wednesday, spent Thanksgiving alone. Everyone just says, "you're tuff, you'll get through it."

[–]GrowGrow_[S] 79 points80 points  (4 children)

Well let me say: you are fucking HARD. Im from Germany and im the OP. Dont let these voices keep you down bro. I cant serve a sandwich for obvious reasons, but let me tell you, i feel for you, even if i dont know you. Cheers mate, or how we say in Germany "PROST". PM if you need someone to speek. Im here bro. Hope you are well.

[–]RecognitionJust6110 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I’m from Germany too. Wokeism, Misandry, etc is really brutal here

[–]alter_furz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

every time I see a female parking spot, I take it. that's my little "fick dich" to the system

[–]catdog8020 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I wish we had legal prostitution like ya’ll have over in Germany. Never thought democrat woman would throw us under the bus but they have 100% and as a man I am realizing the facts: 1) 30% of generation Z females are gay, roughly, 1 out of 3 females therefore they don’t like men and mostly democrat 2) 20% more of republican females say that feminism has hurt our society 3). Most democrat females at least 50% are decentering from men.
4) why would i vote for females that hate me and don’t even want to acknowledge my presence

[–]Reasonable-Agent-278 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That’s really tough reading. I am grateful my family cares  and  i had people to  help me recover after being severely wounded. Them a number of surgeries after. 

Women don’t imagine that no one cares . When I was getting surgery a few years ago . I remember this guy maybe 35 he had been injured severely at work only his sister came to visit it was sad. Yet women have a parade of people coming and going. 

They are solipsistic in their thinking especially feminists . If it’s true for me therefore its what everyone experiences. They cannot imagine something different. Until it’s them.  Then thr federal government must spend billions on programs for them .  

[–][deleted] 62 points63 points  (2 children)

They talk about the top 5% of men. That’s what they mean. The men that are tall and attractive and have a career. The ordinary struggling man is not even visible to them.

[–]Shackles_YT 127 points128 points  (15 children)

Don’t forget normalized genital mutilation and being drafted

[–]throwaway1231697 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Also non gender neutral rape laws. Between the UK, China, India, Singapore and the dozens of other countries, more than half the worlds population (4 billion) people live in countries where only men can be charged for rape, as a rapist needs to have a penis.

[–]GrowGrow_[S] 67 points68 points  (9 children)

On top of that, being drafted, only the stories of the "real" heroes are told, not the one that die right now in the trenches in Ukraine nobody knows about. Welcome to the PATRIARCHY MALE WORLD. Great to be a male. What a privilege to have!

[–]Sensitive_Progress12 22 points23 points  (0 children)

If women want equality, they should be drafted as well, as it's their country

[–]wijeeki75301 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Yeah see, I could see the point that we live in a patriarchy even if it is all based on nonsense. But if we somehow did, how does the patriarchy of today benefit the average male? Sure Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos have the whole world at their fingertips, but how does that benefit us exactly? As average dudes. Some ppl talk about it like we're all in cahoots with the billionaires to make a woman's life a living hell. Like wtf? Not to mention, clearly the laws and court system go against us at every turn. Sure it's a patriarchy but what is the point of saying that exactly? To make us feel bad? To make us feel like we're part of the problem? Men literally have no power nowadays we don't influence shit. Do they think if Bezos died that they could take his place just because a matriarchy was implemented systematically? No. It's up to you on an individual basis. You're not gonna magically fill a CEO position just because the laws benefit you now. It's all rigged and very hard to get to the top. It is a struggle for both men and women. If I didn't make it clear my bad, I do not think we live in a patriarchy. 100 years ago? Sure. Now? Come on give me a break. Not to mention, people who complain about problems that don't exist will likely never do anything impressive or great with their lives. Why do they think all their failures revolve around men? We literally aren't doing anything to them lmfao. It's a circus and I wish I could still swallow kernels. You couldn't get the construction job as a woman? Welp, there is a reason for that. We are not equal, simple. If you're strong and competent enough, you will get the job. Ugh and the jobs we work are so glamorous. Ruining your body to keep society afloat. What a life. I'm so privileged.

[–]Saerain 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Never benefitted the average male, did it? The stuff they call patriarchy forms an aggressively female-weighted program, especially at a generational scale, only with the exception of the top sliver-percentage of males.

Kinda hate saying this, because feminists interpret it as an allegation of female conspiracy against males, and so they'll retort that "men do this to themselves," but that's sorta precisely the point. This grinding away of lower classes specifically by sacrificing their males while their sisters marry up the hierarchy goes back at least as far as literal child sacrifice.

[–]Alert_Swordfish8711 10 points11 points  (4 children)

I'am pretty sure they all imagine themselves being like Rambo 😂

[–]TroyMars 17 points18 points  (3 children)

It’s much worse than that. Parts of our genitals are being harvested for anti aging beauty products, so now there’s a market for our severed foreskins. Could you imagine the outrage if females had no such protections, and that actively being exploited.

[–]Saerain 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Can I at least benefit from these products in exchange for the flesh of my sex organ, or what? I'd take that bargain, but the richest people are still becoming ugly old horrors at a normal rate, so something's not right.

[–]Miek2Star -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

if what you're saying is true, there is no supply-demand relationship here. circumcision will still continue to happen even if there is no 'market for harvesting your organs'

don't know what you're getting through with this

[–]TroyMars 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I personally know two fathers who felt pushed into cutting their children by their doctors so….

[–]hawksdiesel 19 points20 points  (6 children)

our non-profit doesn't even recognize International Men's day....I had to ask them why they didn't include it if we recognize women's day.

[–]calmly86 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Pretty much. Women will complain about having to “settle” for food from McDonald’s as men simply go hungry. That’s the difference between women and men. Women see the food as unappetizing and unhealthy, while simultaneously not giving a damn that men are starving.

[–]Fffgfggfffffff 29 points30 points  (18 children)

Do females in the history past ( anytime )go to war? How common was that comparing to males ?

Women are capable of using bow .

Sure some females might be a bit slower than males but

In a war like situation, shouldn’t all people man or woman be considered as needed for protecting their villages?

Consider that human birth sex is 50/50.

It is both mathematical and socially incorrect

How is male expandable ?

How are Males lives cheaper if they need equal amount of time to raised a male child or a female child to fully grow ?

In terms of reproduce

A female is not more valuable because they can give birth.

Because you not only need a female to reproduce and take care of the kid , a male is also required to reproduce .

When a female has baby , whose gonna hunt , provide food and care for the mother and kid ? How can that be possible if they all their males to war ?

You need people: males or females, to care for kids .

This is especially important in the past when we are less technologically advanced.

In modern time, males are still not expandable, each of them have their skills that is needed to maintain society, without them society couldn’t keep up.

[–]AdLeather1036 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The unfortunate (in the present) but also fortunate (in ancient history) reality is that men naturally developed as protectors due to overall superior strength, esp. in the upper body. Also, men feel a natural desire to protect what is theirs - it's the way our brains are.

[–]Rad_Knight 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Actually using a bow takes considerable strength. A crossbow would be a better example.

[–]JettandTheo 2 points3 points  (5 children)

At the end of the day, men are biologically disposable because the couple that survive the war can impregnate many women and the next generation still exists.

[–]PhantomBlack675 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ok, so then we can force these women to mate and get impregnated for the good of the country, right? Right?

[–]Fffgfggfffffff 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That’s only if 200 females want to reproduce and to give birth to a few males ?

I am sure even in this “ freedom culture “ most women nowadays would not find it easy to accept this idea .

But i am not sure how would people of the past deal with very low male populations.

depending on which time( ice age ? ,their specific technology and the place they lived in.

If females can get all their food without males (protein ) , maintaining houses , hard work, also care for their kids ,plus protecting their villages , obviously then they wouldn’t need that much of males.

I think it is a rather not common condition for them to have in the past .

[–]InPrinciple63 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are forgetting that biology wants as many gene combinations as possible to maximise the chances that some of them confer a benefit to future populations survival and minimise the potential for regressive combinations (ie inbreeding).

It's kind of a reverse eugenics program without considering the consequences.

[–]nayeonIuvr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problems you have stated have come from evolution and societal norm.

Men biologically are stronger so they went to hunt and protect, which most men now have as a natural instinct. Women biologically are more nurturing and have 'maternal instincts' when with children.

Over millions of years this has been upheld as a societal norm (despite there being several exceptions over the last several centuries eg. women fighting in wars), alongside the traditional roles of a nuclear family.

So why take put your blame and anger on women when this norm has been created and upheld by both men and women, more so men.

[–]BlueThespian 28 points29 points  (0 children)

“Obsessive about males they can’t have but admire”. Not even them are safe, every feminist fantasy with a man ends when she gets into her head the idea of “I can do better” meaning she can always get a better man.

[–]Chef-Keith- 13 points14 points  (1 child)

There will never be equality because women will ALWAYS find simps 😉

[–]hottake_toothache 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Obviously, they do not want equality.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (1 child)

There was a feminist that decided to dress up like a man and live like a man for a year, the amount of abuse she faced when people thought she was a man caused her to commit suicide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norah_Vincent

Being a man destroyed her psychologically. Western women have no goddamn idea how priviliged, babied and spoiled they are.

[–]Zealousideal_Bus_535[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s because people didn’t see her as a man. They were put off because they saw her as a non binary “weirdo” and didn’t know how to treat her. This will happen to anyone that doesn’t conform to either gender binary.

[–]Capable-Mushroom99 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Tbh I would forget my birthday if people didn’t remind me. I don’t really like presents or people being nice to me for no particular reason. But I still get calls, people visit, it’s what you do in a family. Every place I worked someone had a list of the birthdays and we would take turns making a cake. At the holidays one of the senior people would always have a dinner party for the employees that couldn’t be with family. It was just part of the culture.

[–]walterwallcarpet 5 points6 points  (1 child)

They view life through a prism where everyone wants to f*ck you, rather than fight you.

Gives a different perspective, I guess.

[–]kitterkatty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

why not both 😈

sorry I’m going down in flames venting & being stupid lol

[–]guitarb26 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Based on what I’ve heard from Norah Vincent & FTM trans people; I’m gonna go ahead and say ‘no.’

[–]Grand-Juggernaut6937 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That’s what I think is so funny about how triggered feminists get when you don’t “respect women”(aka people don’t go out for their way to cater to your specific emotional needs)

Like the second you step over the line to see how people get treated in the real world, you decide you don’t like it and want to keep your privileges.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

what I hate about Feminist is when they say " this not how men's do " sweetie you never been man in you'r whole life

[–]shopinhower 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Women think all men have the life that Chad does, because Chad is the only male that is visible to them. They don’t even see the bottom 80% of men.

[–]Make-TFT-Fun-Again 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Feminists want all women to be equal to the top 10% of men - because those are the only men they see.

The rest are just the things that build their Starbucks and make the mail come in.

Once you realise this, the entire movement falls into place.

[–]Saerain 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fear that this REAL MAN thing is acting like a mirror of what they do with REAL WOMAN but I do basically agree with the premise here. Male disposability and the aristocratic treatment of women forms a dark dance.

[–]HotCellist7439 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I fuckin love being alone. I seek it out 

[–]GanacheOk6482 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Feminist only really see the top like 10% of men as something they want equality with. The other 90% doesn't register to them as humans

[–]eternal_kvitka1817 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This hypocrisy has been proved by male only mobilization in both ukraine and russia

[–]Detail-Realistic 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Us men need to create better friendships and look out for each other, It’s infuriating to be misunderstood and have an experience they can’t really empathise with (well maybe like 10% that have the same issue)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

unfortunately majority of men's aren't programmed to be kind with another man . society expect you to have guy friend for few hour's hangout and than return to wife again

[–]Detail-Realistic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That’s definitely not been my experience. All my friends we still hang out or on one and give each other calls to check in and vent and talk about strategies to improve our relationships, work and life. We are early 30s

[–]Efficient_Aspect_638 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Women can’t even handle getting rejected. They wouldn’t last a week as a REAL MAN.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Life as a man is a hard and cold experience, for many men. Who suffer in silence.

But it must not be that way, if only men could learn to build networks with other similar men. Together we dont have to be so alone, and we could even being some warmth and care to each other (no homo).

But it seems modern men have lost the ability to work and build communities with other men....

[–]Miek2Star 2 points3 points  (0 children)

being a person is hard. its not men vs women. suffering is not a competition. all of us suffer, in different ways and different magnitudes. if one group on average suffers more than another group, the two groups are more likely be be inter-class than inter-sex. i'm saying the poor suffer more than the rich, not men suffer more than women.

the reason men feel alone is men themselves don't make connections with each other. i have male friends who i like to hand out with but we don't talk about anything serious or how we're feeling. whereas if i tell my female friends that i'm not feeling well, they'll take it seriously. i'm pretty sure i'm not alone who feels this way.

i'm not sure if the no homo at the end was meant to be a joke. if not, then that's your problem right there. you don't think men can connect with each other without explicitly mentioning that that's not gay.

>But it seems modern men have lost the ability to work and build communities with other men....

100% agree with you on this one

[–]SelectProgrammer235 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Imagine living a life where your entire species is hated on, shamed, and told to kill themselves on a daily basis.

And this kind of language is not only ignored but is encouraged by billions of people around the world.

Yeah, this is the male experience.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Happy belated birthday dude* atleast you have us at R/MensRights***

[–]SecTeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry OP that sounds rough.

There are enough men on this thread sharing similar experiences.

If anyone is really lonely and into PC gaming DM and let’s play a game together.

We can send each other cards and look after each other even if others aren’t.

This is my advice though throw yourself into stuff with other people and make a real effort to build connections this is a lot harder for men so we have to grind at it just as we have to grind at other things in life

[–]virphirod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They're obsessed with the 1% top male experience, ignoring the other 99

[–]craprapsap 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Let's talk 👋

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

being alone shouldn't be normalized. it's not a natural state for people

[–]kitterkatty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I kind of want that no offense. I’ll trade someone. I’m Virgo six ways and that’s the hermit. (Led zeppelin) for real I wish soul transfers were a thing. Being a trad quiverfull sahm constantly touched all day inside and out I’m dying over here. Life is meant to be pain I guess.

[–]SlyPogona 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Loneliness is a constant, even when having a family, you're always supposed to be the anchor for everyone around, because if you're not, oh boy, everyone just loses their minds

[–]Bats_YT 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Every guy is fighting his own battles.

There's a whole different level of problems/issues we guys gotta face that these feminists can NEVER experience.

To name a few:- 1) Cannot show/express true emotions fully 2) Cannot be vulnerable in front of anyone 3) Always be the one that in most of the cases everyone's gonna just brush off unless you have money or have a true bond with. 4) Afraid to approach a girl in fear of being labelled as creep. 5) Our value being tied to the sum of money we have.

Any feminist will NEVER experience these.

If they show emotions, it's them expressing themselves. (Angry? Someone must've did something to make her angry. But if a guy becomes angry then suddenly he's unhinged and needs anger management!?)

Everyone's gonna come to her if she says she's lonely. If a guy says he's depressed and is thinking of su*cide , everyone will tell him to "MAN UP"

[–]White_Buffalos 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Women always compare themselves to men. Men rarely compare themselves to women. This is the crux of feminist cognitive dissonance. They can't resist doing this, and have a lot of jealousy and insecurity as a result.

I don't know why they do it, but it's true. I think it has something to do with unresolved conflicts with the father and the anxieties absorbed from the mother (about the father, and possibly relationships overall), very generally speaking.

[–]Academic-Mud-1658 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Don't look now, but you just compared men to women. This whole sub is nothing but men comparing themselves to women. That still might make it rare, idk how many men are in y'all's mindset.

[–]White_Buffalos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wrong type of comparison v. what I'm describing. Dumb try, though.

[–]Upper-Divide-7842 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm an MRA there are a wealth of male issues that I imagine women would not like experiencing.

That said I'm yet to be convinced that the "male loneliness epidemic" is real. 

Seems to me that MRA's like this talking point so they can inflate their list of grievances the way feminists do. 

And feminists like this talking point so they can say "men are lonely because women aren't forced to marry loser men anymore" then paradoxically turn around and blame the problem on men and the patriarchy. 

The reality seems to be that both sexes are growing increasingly more lonely partly because of technology and partly because of toxic gender ideology. (Feminism and the Red Pill)

If anyone has some stats to help me reassess this position then I'd be greatful. 

[–]kbgl44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you on the difficulties men face, and I think its the rise of female liberation but male standards have stayed the same. In reality the problem isn’t feminism its about looking out for men, domestic violence is a serious issue for example and we don’t even see the tip of the iceberg. The issue isn’t feminism but the standards men are held against.

[–]beelovez 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sthu

[–]Fffgfggfffffff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone willing to discuss about the social phenomenons of human society

can message me , we can ask questions and answers to questions .

[–]Zealousideal_Bus_535[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And who set that system up?

[–]Sensitive-Donkey8599 -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

I, personally (as a feminist - don't fight me), think that it is feminists who would listen and lift you up. I hear a lot about this "modern feminists" thing, but feminists haven't really changed. We've been about the same thing since the feminist movement started in the 60s (I think the 60's, you can correct me), gender equality.

I know some replies might fight me, go ahead, you don't scare me. Most of the men who would argue this probably still live with their mom at the age of thirty (of course not saying this to you OP, you seem like a very respectful person :D )

[–]SecTeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You could argue Mary Woolenscraft Shelly was one of the early Feminists - although the idea stems from enlightenment ideas around the rights of individuals and folk like Thomas Paine.

You are right many men will be living with parents the number of men who are NEET (Not in work or education) is growing dramatically. There is a growing education gap.

For millennial men evolved muscles and strength to fight and work physically hard. Women evolved language skills. Not to get too biologically reductionist, but the requirements of the modern day job market don’t fit men.

On top of that society praises and values female achievement and assumes men get handed everything on a plate.

The problem of men doing badly is everyone’s problem. A lot of angry young men is a really bad thing in a society.

Feminism and the men’s rights movement need to evolve into an equality movement that takes the needs and problems each sex faces equally.

Some women understand this but others are stuck in a mindset of victimhood or they are kept in a state of fear and hate towards men by a news and film industry that prays on female fears to sell products - see Handmaidens tale mythology

On a side note the really threat to women is likely from modern day theocracy but that seems a blind spot for many western feminists. Who would rather blame ‘men’ than any religion.